[Andy Baker]

I made a logo for Indiana FIRST... it was a solid model of the FIRST logo, but with the lower left corner of the blue square stretched down to look like boxy state of Indiana. It was pretty cool.

So, like the good boy I am, I did the right thing and asked FIRST for permission if we could use this derivation of their logo. It took a while for an answer, but finally, they said "no".

Their reasoning was that if Indiana FIRST really took off, then we could eventually infringe on FIRST's trademarked logo. There is documentation from FIRST saying that we are not to alter their logo, as David has pointed out above. I would guess that it would be hard to get FIRST's written permission to use an altered state of their logo.

FIRST realizes that there are teams who incorporate the FIRST logo into their team logos, but FIRST isn't doing anything about it for now.

I think that team 500 uses FIRST's logo and I would guess that they got FIRST's permission to use it.

Andy B.

ps... I would post the logo, but I deleted it. Clark, do you still have it? If so, go ahead and post it.