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Unread 28-07-2007, 11:17
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Re: pic: How we cool our compressor

Ryan,
If this compressor is used as intended the only death will occur with old age. As others have pointed out in this thread, the motor occassionally is wired incorrectly and it runs backwards. The compressor is not as efficient and so takes longer to come up to shut off pressure. The result is added heat from the motor and added heat from the compressor running a longer time between cycles. The thermal breaker inside the motor is to protect the motor from burning up due to a locked compressor or from trying to start with a high "head" pressure. Both of which would exceed the design current for the motor windings. The compressor start current can be about 25 amps and run current will be about 10-12 amps under normal conditions. Remember that compressing air causes a significant rise in temperature and in a compressor there is frictional heat added as well. Under normal use, these temperatures are accounted for in the design. This compressor is not intended for continual use however.
A fan for cooling in this case would be acceptable under the rules for robot use. I would have to see your use of a thermistor to be able determine if it fits the robot rules. In any event the thermistor would have to be used as a sensor, insulated and returned to the RC or custom circuit as a sensor input. The Spike controlling the compressor can only be fed by the RC to be legal. Mounting the thermistor using one of the compressor head bolts might be an issue, but I can't think of anything off the top of my head that could consider that a modification of the compressor. If you drilled and tapped a hole, that is a modification. I could think of several ways to attach a thermistor that would not disturb any of the hardware and still work effectively.
If you are adding three compressors in parallel, I would think a check valve at the output of each one would be appropriate. This would prevent problems when one of the compressors starts later than the other two. It would also prevent starting with a high system pressure. Just a thought.
Doug, the black wire, I think, was referring to the PWM cable. This is a fairly common occurence when the PWM cable is connected inproperly or contacts the +12 volt line at the other end. Happens more often than I would like but is an effect of using RC components in this application.
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