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Originally Posted by InfernoX14
Of course, they are appropriate songs because it is open to the public and families often bring their young children.
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I would actually say that quite a few of the songs are not well chosen on this front. It seems to me that we don't give enough consideration to our songs. However, back to my main point...
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Originally Posted by InfernoX14
I have a problem with what you're doing. You asked for what we thought about this "issue" and when we give our opinions you attack us for it. I tried being diplomatic but your incessant attacks have tempted me to turn the other cheek.
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I read a newspaper article recently about online bullying in schoolchildren that described how bad online bullying was. At the end of the first paragraph (as I remember) it said something to the effect of: "And for kids with a computer in their room, there is no escape."
My point is this: sure, maybe I've gotten more into this than is appropriate. I admit that I'm a bit frustrated by the idea that songs that admittedly don't fit with (broken record) central FIRST ideals are not only tolerated but encouraged. I think for the most part I haven't attacked anybody - but if you feel that I have, you're welcome to stop playing. No one is forcing you to read this. I find the idea that the wide world of sports loves everyone to be pretty naive, though I may have been a little rude in conveying that. I don't think I've called anyone an idiot, a moron, a retard, or anything in that vein, which would certainly constitute the type of "attack" you're talking about. It is certainly true that I have challenged nearly everyone who has posted their opinions on their opinions, and if I've been overly aggressive in doing so, I apologize. But your #1 recourse should be to stop reading if you're no longer interested.
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Originally Posted by InfernoX14
My response is saying that the song wasn't written to go perfectly with the ideals of FIRST (it couldn't have been...). And what negative influence does it have? What I am saying is that we don't see people who are acting in a rude and non-GP manner because this song is played at the competitions.
And I'm not saying that tradition justifies playing this song despite the so-called negative influence it can have. I'm saying tradition justifies why we play or would want to play the song.
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I admit that overall I am surprised how this turned out. I expected to see a few people with "shut up I like this song (more diplomatically of course)." And while I didn't really see any of that, I expected more of a mix of people responding. I have not yet heard anyone fess up to thinking that a conflict between words and actions is meaningful. It's not about the results; it's about the process. The problem with President Bush's wire-tapping program is not that he's spying on people; the problem is that he's breaking the law. Of course I'm not saying that the songs we're playing are illegal. But, as quite a few people (including yourself) have admitted, it's not in tune with GP, which is as much our constitution as anything else. And no one has a problem with that?