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Re: "We Are the Champions" and GP?

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Originally Posted by Jane n Mike View Post
...analyze the lyric "No time for losers" dispassionately, and its dissonance with the finest ideals of FIRST is simply inescapable.
I can escape that dissonance just fine, though I think it's hard to consider any part of the song dispassionately. By the way, that word does not mean "in isolation" or "out of context" the way some seem to want to read the word "losers". It means "without strong emotion", and the whole meaning of the song is lost if you try to remove the emotional part.

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On its face, the line has a mocking, denigrating tone...listen to the musical figure to which the words are set. It is unmistakably the "Nanny nanny boo boo" taunt of the school yard, rhythmically and tonally.
On the contrary, I think those who hear it that way are mistaken. It doesn't have the same number of syllables ("nanny" vs. "no"). It doesn't use the same notes (minor vs. major intervals).

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But in that lyric, repeated as part of the chorus, the ugly face of the taunting victor is an undeniable part of the message.
It's hardly undeniable. I'm denying it right now.

Seriously, I'm going to repeat what I told Paul upthread. If you think the song "We Are The Champions" goes against the ideals of FIRST, it seems to me that it's because you want it to be that way. If you don't like it, you can easily choose otherwise, and interpret it as being perfectly consistent and uplifting instead of as an ungracious slap in the face. That's what I do.