[EricH]

Originally Posted by JYang

sorry... my bad.

when you look at a stack of ringers and KNOW how many poitns it is worth
when you look at a stack of ringers and know in what orientation on a rack would they be worth most.

That would be zero--the ringers only count on the rack.

When you see a stack of ringers and start designing a device to put them on the rack.

When you can manage to relate robotics concepts to your current project. (Aero Design for SDSM&T)