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Addition to DEJA VU...all over again...

Posted by Tom Vanderslice, Student on team #275, ORHS/AST/Hitachi, from Academy of Science and Technology and Hitachi.

Posted on 4/4/99 7:19 PM MST


In Reply to: DEJA VU...all over again... posted by Tom Vanderslice on 4/4/99 7:10 PM MST:



: : Some 50 years ago we used to have a procedure on the playground called 'choosing up sides'. Boy, I hated that. Then we switched to shooting baskets or throwing baseballs for the selection process. Finally we drew numbers out of a hat for truly random selection. I feel like I have reverted to my second childhood!

: : After further thought, I still feel that the alliance selection should be an automatic seeding process, but it appears I'm alone on this one.

: : Good luck to everyone. I am looking forward to saying hello to old friends and making new ones in Florida. That's the best part!

: : Bill Beatty

: I believe there is one fatal flaw in your logic and that is what's at
: stake...although 'playground pride' is a big deal its nothing like the
: national comp...when on the playground if you're team ended up with the
: short end of the stick today in a random draw, you came back tomorrow,
: or next week...and hoped for better luck. Well at nationals, at the
: risk of using a cliche, there is no tomorrow.

: In the long run, with just random selection the cream will rise to the
: top (on the playground...everyone knew who the best players were)...this
: is a lot like qualifying rounds this year...and the validity of that is
: a whole different discussion...but anyway...in one weekend there isn't
: time to let random selection slowly show who the top teams are...you have
: to get an idea of who the top teams are, and then let them duke it out in
: a tournament, making the tournament a random selection (or even based on
: seeds which is fairly random...except you have the 'top' teams)...is
: essentially just extending the qualifying rounds...and that's not the
: point of a tournament...the point of a tournament is to have a
: 'winner takes all' competition...the 'best' team or the 'favorite' team
: doesn't always win a tournament...but 'that's why you play the games'...
: its not good enough to be simply the best or the strongest or the
: fastest...you have to be able to step up on command and play your
: best when you have to.

: Hmm...gee...sorry...that was a lot more than I meant to write when I
: started, but there's my 2+ cents...

: Tom
: Team 275

Sorry, I reread my message and realized I kind of went of on a tangent...

But, my basic point was that not allowing the top seeded teams to play
with what they think is their 'best' (anotherwords..the partner that will
best suit their robot)...completely destroys the validity of the tournament.

Tom



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