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Re: Is this considered a hurdle?

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Originally Posted by neoshaakti View Post
I dont think that launching the ball is considered hurdling because the definition says that
a. Hurdling is the "The act of completing a HURDLE."
in order to complete a hurdle, a robot has to
"be in POSSESSION of a TRACKBALL"
Possession is - "Controlling the position and movement of a TRACKBALL while the TRACKBALL is supported or captured"
we obviously know that ball isnt "captured" when its in mid air

but is it supported?
no I dont think it is

"A TRACKBALL shall be considered “supported” by a ROBOT if in the estimation of a reasonably
astute observer the majority of the weight of the TRACKBALL is being borne by the ROBOT."

I dont think that the weight of the trackball is supported by a robot if its traveling through the air

I might be wrong though, Id appreciate it you informed me of any flaws in my logic
The is a lot of confusion on this point, myself included. By the scoring definition, the trackball cannot be touching the robot to count. If you go by this, then at SOME point during the hurdling process (which, by the HURDLE definition, isn't completed until it touches the ground or another robot) then your robot MUST loose possession of the ball, if only momentarily, during the maneuver.

I'm going to jump in with the school of thought that a ball being hurdled is independent of whether or not a robot is hurdling it. From what I can tell, The ball scores regardless of what the robot does, since it just has to meet the conditions of the hurdling definition:

"When a TRACKBALL CROSSES a FINISH LINE, while passing over the OVERPASS and then contacts either the floor or another ROBOT before re-contacting the originating ROBOT."

as long as it meets that for its own color finish line (per rule G11) then it scores 8 points, regardless of what the robot is doing in the time that the ball is going over.

During that time, it's hard to say whether or not the robot is hurdling, since the it's "[t]he act of completing a HURDLE", but also must be in possession of the ball. Since you have to let go of the ball at some point, it's unclear as to if the robot is still hurdling then (because the hurdle conditions has not been met until the ball hits the floor or another robot), or if the robot is NOT still hurdling, because they are no longer in the possession of the ball.
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