[dlavery]

Originally Posted by SlimBoJones

Which leads to another interesting dilemma. The tipped, disabled robot can incur no more penalties of ANY kind, based on the way the rule is written. This essentially grants the team "immunity" from the moment the e-stop is hit.

1) A referee would be handcuffed in trying to penalize the team for breaking the spirit of FIRST. Even if it was the right thing to do.

2) If you really wanted to cover your bases, you would hit the e-stop as your robot was in the process of tipping, before it tipped to the point of penetrating the 80" diameter cylinder. I don't think robots that tip over, and as a result, extend beyond the 80" diameter cylinder, will be penalized however.

3) Getting through the blocking, tipped, disabled robot would probably mean pushing it hard enough to bend or break something, especially if it was designed specifically for the purpose of blocking. That also poses a very high risk for penalties for the opposing alliance trying to push through, especially if the bumper zone vs non-bumper zone contact penalties are still in effect for the disabled, tipped robot.

Effectively you've created a situation where your alliance is winning, scoring is frozen, you cannot incur penalties, and you've created a very strong incentive for your opponent to take a penalty.

Strategists drool. Gracious professionals cringe.

Any drooling strategists might not have yet fully thought through things. It seems possible that someone might have foreseen this potential little dilemma and already have a solution in mind should any team attempt to use this as a strategy.

Notice that the (revised) rule indicates that a disabled Robot will not receive any additional PENALTIES. It does not say anything about being immune from receiving a RED CARD (note that in the formal definitions, they are not the same thing).

-dave