Thread: <R16> penalty
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Re: <R16> penalty

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Originally Posted by Jeff Waegelin View Post

All this said, it would appear the penalties are defined differently. There's no provision for violating <R16> in "The Game", so there would be no point penalty, just a possible yellow card, unless a change is made. Personally, I would like to see a 10-point penalty added for this violation, with, again, a provision for a yellow card for repeat offenders.
There is always somewhat of a grey area connecting "Robot" and "Game" rules. It is very rare to see a penalty spelled out (in the "Game" Section) for violations of rules in the in the "Robot" Section (only <R19> "wedge rule" this year). Most references to Robot rules are under the Starting Conditions, which Robot inspectors can inspect (with a box and a scale) before the match.

Same thing happened last year with <R12> (72" box). No Penalty was defined in the original rules, and an update added <G41-A> which specified the penalty. A similar update & rule could be coming this year on the heels of this Q&A answer. However, since <R12> was a similar experience last year, it seems odd that the GDC would simply forget to include similar a penalty for <R16>. Maybe they omitted the penalty on purpose and intended it to be a yellow card only offense. We will probably see next week.

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Originally Posted by jacob07 View Post
should a robot that can extend beyond 80" even be allowed on the field?
I would suspect most hurdling bots can extend past 80" by accidentally falling over. I don't think you can keep these robots off the field simply because they can break <R16>. I think we need increased levels of communication between RIs and Refs. RIs should make notes of how a robot can violate <R16>. Then at least one RI should be watching the matches and acting as an adviser to the refs.
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