Thread: <R16> penalty
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Re: <R16> penalty

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Originally Posted by GaryVoshol View Post
I don't think the referees can just hand out penalties when they feel like it. If that were the case, why are penalties mentioned in any of the other rules? If breaking any rule is always a 10-point penalty, then there's no need to mention it again. In fact, there is at least one place where it says breaking the rule will NOT incur a penalty - instead the robot will be disabled.

Also, if the penalty was 10 points, why would the Q&A have not mentioned that, and specified a Yellow Card instead?
If you look at any of the game rules which can cause penalties, they don't specify the 10 points, the penalty detriment is defined in the definitions. Also, some rules violations are immediate DQ. Try running a robot at 20 pounds over weight. No one is going to let you compete in that condition, and if you do get on the field and are caught your alliance is DQ'd.

If you can be yellow carded for a violation, you can receive a penalty for that offense. Penalties are suppose to discourage teams from the offending action. The penalty should be a warning to fix your actions immediately.

A yellow card is a MUCH harsher consequense for violating the 80" rule, so if FIRST's intention is to only issue yellow cards for this violation, then you'd better heed my warnings even more. The next step after a yellow card, is a red card. I'd never want to risk that.

Instead of trying to lawyer the rules, just ask the Q&A in plain english "will violating the 80" rule cause a 10 point penalty and/or an immediate yellow card".

All I know is we won't be sweating this rule. We saw the implications immediately, and designed accordingly.

Good Luck teams.
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