[TheOtherGuy]

I think the point of this thread was to DISCUSS the different similarities/differences between arm-bots and shooters and to assert our collective OPINIONS on the subject. How the alliance works is completely arbitrary to the conversation. This thread is merely for SPECULATING over which design would be more dominant over the other.

C'mon, this thread is for fun, as noted by the number of pages in 1 day. Arguments/Debates are fun, interesting, and engaging. We all know we will see how it plays out on the first day of competition, so stop mentioning that. Just post your ideas on why you think shooters (as mentioned in the initial post) are better or worse than arm-bots. There have already been some interesting posts on the subject, so try as hard as possible not to deviate from that discussion.

Now, my opinion is that shooters will have a clear advantage.

-low CG (I haven't seen a tall/tippy shooter yet...)
-shoot on the fly (some elevators can do this, but none that I've seen also load from the front)
-almost no chance of exceeding the 80" rule (not a big issue, just a minor point that hasn't been made yet, that I know of)

the main point here is the shoot on the fly. You save ~5 seconds or more (depending on the design, I know 179 can hurdle fast with their arm) on that fact alone. Shooters also (some of them) can knock off and catch the ball very, very quickly. I haven't seen an arm robot do this yet. NEW IDEA: Shooters can place the ball faster than arm robots. I say this because arm robots (most of them) take some time to raise the arm and actually place the ball. Shooters simply move the the right spot on the field and shoot. From our experiments, you don't have to be very accurate to get the ball on the overpass...

Just throwing some ideas out there for discussion...

EDIT: and what Craig Hickman said earlier about robots taking the most wins, I believe he meant which robot would make the most points.