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Re: Team Update #13

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Originally Posted by GaryVoshol View Post
Alibi brings up good points. It all depends on if the new second sentence in <G14> applies just to <G14>, or if it applies to all the trackball scoring rules. This should generate some good discussion in the meetings with the head refs this morning.

One potential problem: Suppose Red has placed one of their Trackballs on their own Overpass and it is not in motion. A Blue shooter flings their Trackball just as the clock hits zero. The Blue Trackball displaces the Red trackball from the Overpass (in a counterclockwise direction), and comes to rest on the Overpass. Under <G14>, the Blue Trackball now counts for 12 points. But what happened to the Red Trackball? It wasn't restrained by a robot, but it wasn't in motion either. Choices are
(1) 12 points for Red, because it was not in motion at the time the clock hit zero
(2) 8 points for Red, because when the Trackball came to rest it had completed a Hurdle
(3) 0 points for Red, because the Trackball was not in motion at the time the clock hit zero so it doesn't count as a Hurdle, and because it was not on the Overpass when it came to rest.
I'm stunned and impressed that you managed to think up a reasonably plausible situation that actually covers every possible interpretation of the rule.

Also, a point I haven't seen considered yet. What does this rules update imply for trackball scoring at the end of the hybrid period? A removed trackball counts 8 points if it's not touching the overpass. Is that also an instantaneous decision or will that also be a wait and see decision? I think this actually argues for the universal interpretation of the wait and see clause and against the interpretation of Gary and me. At least, I think it would make more sense to universally apply the wait and see clause. So I think it's exceedingly odd for the GDC to have added a universal clause to the tail end of just one rule, but I will not be at all surprised if it's interpreted as universal and the GDC releases a later update accusing Gary and I of rules lawyering and general obtuseness.
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