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Re: Competition Professionalism

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Originally Posted by Laaba 80 View Post
I agree with you that is not appropriate for a professional setting..... The thing is that we arent a professional setting. FIRST is like nothing else around, we have serious competition, while still having fun. Teams arent professional, remember most are a high school club. Do you think a high school football game is a professional setting?



Why does it matter?? FIRST isn't all about the robots. Competitions are a chance for you to show off all of what you accomplished. It is also about meeting new people and having fun, while still being respectful.

If you took away all the dancing and other things, it will just make the competition boreing, and people wont look forward to them.


I am guessing that you are a volunteer for tournaments, and you dont like the dancing because it takes up time and makes you get home later. I'm not sure if this is true, and I dont think that there is anything wrong with that. I volunteered at the FTC tournament in Appleton last week. I had to hand out crystals, and it did get boreing. I dont mind how long it takes though, because its all about the teams participating. I also know as being a part of FLL and FRC since I was in 4th grade that I like that kind of stuff while participating. I understand where you are coming from, and I had this problem when I started volunteering, but I remembered how much fun I had with it. Look at it from a teams perspective, it really will make volunteering at the competition more enjoyable.
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I am a volunteer in the mentor sense. Team #125 and various other teams in the Boston area. I have also been involved since 7th grade lego league.
For this discussion, we can assume that I don't care at what time I get home.
I am lividly afraid that there are kids out there who go to the events and have nothing, and had nothing, to do with the robot. It is only a social event. Where is the inspiration and recognition in that?

Comparing a football game to FIRST is probably a little bit off, like you said FIRST isn't like anything else around.


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Originally Posted by Romino90
wheres the fun with out the dancing ..why don't we have halo tournaments instead during the brake between matches LOL
You are more or less proving my point.

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Originally Posted by TdorTheBnator
I have no problem with the dancing. It does give time for repairs sometimes. And also, first is supposed to be professional, yes. But the dancing that happens at the competitions is just high school students being high school students. It shows a lot of team spirit I think. There is an award for team spirit and a lot of the people who win are the ones who are dancings and doing all those things.
The time for repairs is sanctioned in the game and rules itself. Extensions past that are not provided for in the rules. One 6 minute period is still 6 minutes even if the YMCA may be 7 minutes long.


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Originally Posted by JaneYoung
I hope we can continue to celebrate FIRST in the manner that we do - inviting everyone to be a part of the celebration and encouraging everyone to have a great time. The competition, the music, the dance lines, the awesome MCs and game announcers, the interactions of the teams, the visiting guests which include VIPs and potential sponsors. I hope these celebrations continue to reflect the increasing impact of the goals of FIRST, the influence of Gracious Professionalism, and the affect on the lives of everyone involved.

Dancing at FIRST competitions is a great way for everyone to enjoy the event. If you look at the faces of the judges, they are enjoying being a part of the celebration and fun as much as anyone.

I have never picketed in my life but if we were to stop the chicken dance, I might have to wear a placard that says: save the chicken dance!
Jane, I am just as excited as the next guy for robotic competitions. I really fear though that a lot of the students celebrating are doing so in the dark. I don't think that a majority of kids are actually gaining any insight to science and technology. As FIRST continues to grow, we cannot only be focused on the quantitative analysis, but the qualitative effect it has on each and every student.
5 students who gain an engineering education from FIRST is better than 100 who don't learn a thing.
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