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Unread 11-03-2008, 14:43
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hybrid rules are not quite stable..

hi everyone!
while watching game #64 in the ST.Louis regional (http://www.thebluealliance.net/tbatv...p?matchid=5276)
a slight rule missunderstanding occured to me:
team 525 starts the match by knocing their opponent's ball. the narrator says clearly that "they wont get points for that" but the other team didnt get points too(you can clearly see 3 robots passing the first line and the finished the hybrid with 16 so no points were added).
The game rules clearly say that the other alliance should've gotten these points:
" <G08> All TRACKBALL scores are awarded to the ALLIANCE associated with the scored TRACKBALL, independent of the ROBOT that may have caused the scoring action to occur.
<G09> During the HYBRID PERIOD, each TRACKBALL that is removed from the OVERPASS (i.e. completely removed from its initial TARGET LOCATION and not in contact with any portions of the OVERPASS) at the end of the HYBRID PERIOD will earn 8 points. "
http://www.usfirst.org/uploadedFiles...0Game-RevG.pdf


and i've double checked in the Q&A and it says the same thing there:
"If we knock down an opponent's ball during Hybrid Period?
Posted by FRC1594 at 01/09/2008 05:34:39 pm
Who scores if we knock an opponent's ball off the overpass in the Hybrid Period?

Re: If we knock down an opponent's ball during Hybrid Period?
Posted by GDC at 01/10/2008 09:22:16 pm
As noted in Rule <G08>, all Trackball scores are awarded to the Alliance associated with the scored Trackball, independent of what Robot may have caused the scoring action. So if you knock your opponent's Trackball off the Overpass during the Hybrid Period, the opponent will receive the points."
http://www.usfirst.org/uploadedFiles...0Game-RevG.pdf

was there a mistake in this specific game? BTW, not that its any of my buisness but the red alliance needed those points to win..
any light shed on this issue, and any comments are extremely weelcome..
sorry its a bit ling, hope you'll read it anyway and enjoy
thanks, Ziv

i've forgot a crutial question: what will happen from now on? will it be 8 points for the other team or none? (crutial because pur aoutonomus mode might be upgraded if its zero...something to worry about if you are competing against us at the Israeli regional )
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