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Re: Silicon Valley Regional 2008

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Originally Posted by icdumbpeeps305 View Post
The ball can be in contact with the originating robot while it is crossing the finish line. If you look closely at the wording, the only conditions for a hurdle are that the ball contacts either the ground or another robot before contacting the originating robot. Thus, 190 remains in contact with the ball over the finish line (legal) and lowers it to a manageable height (legal), releases the ball (completing one hurdle), and re-raises the ball so that the turret can then bring the ball completely across the opponents finish line ("resetting" the ball). Rinse and repeat.

/Edit: Also, according to the referees at BAE, 190 is protected under <G42> during a very significant amount of this maneuver (>60%)
The wording of the rule indicates that contact would be lost before the ball finishes crossing the finish line. The original intent of hurdling was to be a bonus for completing the same task as herding but over the overpass which would not suggest carrying the ball over and at some arbitrary time letting go and recapturing the ball.

The rule says the ball crosses the finish line and then before contacting the originating robot (too late! it is still in contact with the originating robot!) the ball must touch the ground or another machine. The order seems pretty clear to me. I don't see how this rule would suggest you can carry the ball over, and at some completely arbitrary time (or height?!) lose contact with the ball.

And to clarify, yes the ball can be in contact with the machine WHILE the ball is crossing the finish line. But not in between when it has CROSSED, and before it touches the ground or another machine.