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Re: Call Inconsistencies Between Regionals
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Originally Posted by Richard
Which volunteers do you mean?
Only the Head Referee can make a team's post-match clarification request "go away". Head Referees I have worked with prefer to interact with pre-college team members who are standing in an area that has been designated (e.g., with tape on the floor) for that purpose.
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<not meant to be derogatory>
Its great that the rules tell us the head ref is the only one who can make the post-match clarification go away...however we've seen some rules not called and some called too much on the field....makes sense for the same to occur off the field too
Honestly in a rule book world it makes sense. The head ref acknowledges the student, the student tells head ref, head ref explains, student goes away not necessarily happy, but more satisfied with a ruling.
Problem is some "Officially-given-to-me-because-I-volunteered-white-FIRST-overdrive-tshirt-wearin'" volunteers have told kids to move on. I saw this specifically at an event this year. Because the score had been announced, and because that alliance had been knocked out of the tournament, the volunteer told said kid to move on, its over now. Outrageous and unacceptable, plain and simple. And a good mannered kid is not going to defy an adult telling them what to do....this is the problem.
My point was to get kids INTO the box and INTO conversation with the head ref. If they cannot even do that 100% of the time, whats the point of the box?
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Originally Posted by jgannon
Officially, yes, but sometimes some headstrong field personnel feel like they can usher you away from the box because you're slowing things down. This happened to us once this season, and this same volunteer told me later that we were lucky she didn't tell the judges about the incident, because she felt that our resistance to her demands should exclude us from eligibility for awards. It doesn't surprise me to hear that others are being turned away from the challenge box by people other than the head ref.
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This is unreal to me. Threatening to tell judges of the teams behavior for trying to PLAY BY THE RULES AND GET A CLARIFICATION??!?!? Just ridiculous if you ask me. A select few of these volunteers feel that they supersede the rules and the event and the students just because they were "put in charge" of something. This is honestly when someone needs to go to bat for these kids, in a gracious and professional manner, and explain to these people that the students have a right as per the rules, to be in that box WHENEVER they want (to a reasonable extent).
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Last edited by Brandon Holley : 17-03-2008 at 15:44.
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