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Re: GP? I think not.

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Originally Posted by DanTod97 View Post
If it was teams that dont normally win going to three differne tones and having an amazing year, then thats a good accomplishment they should be proud of. But there are some teams that they KNOW they are good and they KNOW chances are very high for them to win, and they know theyve had numerous wins in the past, so I dont see why its necessary for them to plan on going to multiple regionals, wiht it being understood chances are very high that they are going to win probably more than one of them.
So a team is supposed to evaluate whether or not they are 'good'?

"Hey guys, I think we're pretty awesome this year. We'll probably win everything. Let's just not go to another regional since we're going to dominate anyway, okay?"

The truth is that NO team - I don't care how long they've been in the competition or how well they've done during their tenure - knows what is going to happen until they put their robot on the field for the first time at their first event. How egotistical and selfish do you take these teams to be?

Out of the list of robots that has been quoted over and over here as being some of the elite teams in FIRST, I can name a season for each of them where their robot was mediocre or sub-par. That's just how it works. Nobody can be 'on', all of the time. The repeat years you're talking about where a team may win more than one regional or where a team wins Championship more than once is luck and ingenuity - it takes practice, it takes time, and it takes a group of students who are willing to really work to make it happen.

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and THANK YOU to all those who give me bad rep for a having a different opinion than yours, very, very nice. love it.
No problem. It's not judging your opinion - you've long passed the line of what could be considered your opinion. Your logic is flawed. Your logic is what they're neg repping - because you've contradicted yourself repeatedly, argued the fine points of what has been beaten to death previously, and made your team look like sore losers (regardless of whether you mention them in these threads, you're representing them on this forum whether you like it or not).

If a student of mine came up to me and expressed these opinions, we'd have a long talk together about why they are in the FIRST program, what it means to them, and what they hope to accomplish while on the team. We'd talk about what it means to be a gracious competitor and how to act professionally both on and off the field.

Here's the point - everyone seeks inspiration in different ways. It appears that FIRST is not giving you the inspiration you seek, based on the opinions and logic you have attempted to express here. Walk away from the keyboard, sit down, and think about what you've said and what others have said before you post again. Posting from emotion is getting you little to nowhere, and giving people a negative impression of whom I'm sure you are. Yes, you have points. Yes, we understand them. However, in trying to talk to you about them, you're throwing up defenses.

Think about what I said. And if you have nobody to talk to about the conversation I detailed above, I'd be happy to give you a call and let you vent. Really.
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