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Re: Problem with Penalties

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Originally Posted by Hachiban VIII View Post
Might it be fair to conclude that the GDC should avoid these types of penalties, or perhaps re-word them to penalize other robot functions?
I have been watching this thread with some interest. It is an intriguing discussion. But I do feel the need to jump in here for a moment. I would suggest that you might want to think through the wording of the above statement carefully. I would posit that it is incorrect for you to "conclude that the GDC should" do anything. It may be proper and appropriate for you to "conclude that we suggest to the GDC that" they consider these ideas. You must be aware that you have not constrained yourselves to all the restrictions and requirements that must be considered when designing a game for FIRST/FRC. The desires, interpretations, and considerations expressed herein are (for the most part) well reasoned and constructive comments. However, they are (for the most part) delivered from one particular viewpoint: that of a team participating in the competition. They (for the most part) do not incorporate the constraints or limitations imposed on the design of the game by the FIRST Board Of Directors, the event managers, the venues, the FIRST organization, the Founders, the Regional Directors, the liability lawyers, the IP sources, the KOP suppliers, the media interests, the great folks on the FIRST staff, the developers, the international partners, the financial officers, etc., etc., etc.

All of these groups levy requirements on the design of the game. Many of them are mutually exclusive. Frequently, we get constraints from within the same group that may conflict with one of their own previous requirements. Very few of them have been considered in the preceding discussion in this thread. It is only after you are aware of ALL these requirements, and can find a way to satisfy all of them (or fail to satisfy all of them equally, which is the more common reality) that you can conclude what should be incorporated into the game design.

Several channels have been established to gather game suggestions, desirements and requirements from the teams. They include the threads in the FRC Game Design forum on DC, the team forums, and the direct e-mail channels, to mention only a few. Please use them to let FIRST and the GDC know your CONSTRUCTIVE comments, feedback, ideas, and desires. I can guarantee that every one of them will be read and considered. But please be aware that just because it is read and considered does not mean that it will be incorporated into a future game. What appears to be a reasonable idea from the viewpoint of a team may be, unbeknownst to you, in direct conflict with some other hard requirement established by another part of FIRST.

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