[Joe J.]

I've said this before and I'll say this again, you CAN NOT declare any FIRST robot or alliance the best or unbeatable unless they have competed against every other robot and/or alliance combination and it won't happen there are just too many teams and too many unknowns, like luck good or bad it plays a part in every competition.

Yes they have lost but they have also won with one robot sitting out and another tipped over those could both be chalked up to luck. No alliance is perfect some might be closer than others but each can still have its flaws.