[Dan Richardson]

Yeah it did seem like a lot of robots had that 343 style gripper. When I saw metal in motion go I was very impressed. Roller grippers were great this year, unfortunately like us it wasn't the way to go, simply couldn't keep up with the best shooters or the flipper style arms like 330/217.

Roller grippers have always been the best way to go with balls, we relied heavily on pictures of old robots, that itself was a collaboration. Heck when Arefin showed our team the 1345 roller gripper design that is what influenced our team to go with it. In fact he suggested the best way to do it. When we saw 121's design at the time, we were VERY impressed and were happy with the direction we were going.... until we saw 1114 :-( hehe

Either way 121 sure had a great design, becareful with your tone tho, you might offend people when you insult their creativity. If anything for us, when we were looking for comparison we looked at your 04 bot, which was also beast master.