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Re: Is competing at multiple regionals REALLY fair ?

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Originally Posted by fuzzy1718 View Post
What everyone that has commented on my post fails to relize is I'm not worried about my team, I'm worried about others. All you guys keep saying that I want to bring the veterans down, I don't want to. I simply want them to think of somthing other than a definate win and try to give other teams that same exsperiance. Take 217 abd 469 at the detroit regional this year, they could have taken a team that could play good defense, but they didn't, they picked a team that wasn't great(I mean no harm by this, if I affend someone sorry), didn't have much money, and was a 4 or 3 person team. Yeah they picked one another, but bringing in that third pick was beter than oblitterating everyone. I'm more talking about things like 217 & 469 at detroit. 217 was going to Atlanta already, and more than likely so was 469, so why pick one another?????? That is more what I'm talking about. I don't want teams to throw regionals, but pick teams that aren't going rather than those who are.
To answer other comments, i don't want FIRST to do a thing about this, I want teams to change their outlook and think of something other than winning.
I know that our team has picked veterans the past two years, but our team wasn't already qualified, and neither was our third pick; 2 out of 3 not going, how is that against what I'm saying. Besides last year we said yes to someone who pick us at detroit, 27; we were not going to Atlanta, they were; neither did our thid partner. I applaude them for breaking the mold of a few teams in the area.
As far as the insulted comment "They shouldn't be there because someone felt sorry for them and decided to pick them. Were this to happen to me, I'd be insulted." To be passed up when you are a good competitor, but don't make the cut to be on a STACKED allinace is insulting too. Also to be told that you won't be picked because you are a younger team is insulting and fustrating. I won't name names but this actually did happen to my team. We perfer not to talk about it, but it really did happen. Due to this there is definate hesitation when we come to there number when chosing our alliance list.
As far as my team we don't travel out of state because A we don't have the money and B we have no need we are competeing with some of the toughest teams already. What I don't like is when a team goes to 3 regionalsand one is just to demolish the competition. There is no need to go to that many regionals and I ahve always though that the accepted number is 2 regionals, no more, by most teams' merit standards. If you know your team is great then compete at great regionals, don't go to a regional were there are few veteran powerhouses.
As for buying your way to Atlanta, I mean the teams that choose to go there when everyone is picking their regionals.
You are correct I am by no means speakng for my team, these are my personal thoughts and wish that you not think of my team any differantly after reading any of my posts.
Whoever keeps saying the "Life isn't fair" bit, we know it has been said at least 50 times on this thread. If it is a reply to one of my posts, I understand life isn't fair, but we can try to make it as fair as possible. If you say life shouldn't be fair I would understand where you are comming from, but life isn't has no relevancy.
I have much more to say, but it is late and MARC is tommorow.
The bold highlight is mine.

Your whole argument falls apart because of that statement, because of its obvious bias against successful teams and for teams lacking in resources. You claim teams need to think of other things besides winning, but then you go on to say they should pick teams who somehow "deserve" to win but never do. Thus, your whole argument is about winning.
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