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Re: Is competing at multiple regionals REALLY fair ?

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Originally Posted by fuzzy1718 View Post
1st off sorry 217 for the mix-up. I racked my brain for who picked who and eeven tried going to TBA to see, but my computer disconnected just as I got to TBA (dial-up ) so I said to myself "I'll pick 217 they won another regional, and were on fire that weekend". I ment no harm by it, if it seemed like I was I'm sorry. It is hard for me to use examples and not sound negative, it is simply my personality; always finding what is wrong and never what is right, ask anyone on my team they will agree. If I could change I would.

For those keep who commenting about what I said about mentors, read my post after the first comment, I wasn't talking about me not respecting all that they have done. I didn't want their answers to be the same that they have been, that is all. I am very grateful for everything that they have done, all their information and help. Koko ed, at MARC after the competition, I wanted to shake your hand and thank you, but you weren't at the door anymore. I seen the X-cats' name on the back of your board, did a double take and thought, "Wow, he came a long way." By no means was my comment ment to be direspectful, if it sounded that way sorry; I just wanted more than the same few mentors responding.
I am a mentor of an FLL team, I donate my time at the county ISD to put on a lego robotics camp, I know what it feels like. If some one on an FLL team said "I don't care for your opinoin" I wouldn't react like you guys have. I would walk away and think "one of many", not yell at the kid to make him feel bad.

Those of you who keep saying the words "pity pick", those by no means are mine, and not what I ment. I also never said that I want the veteran powerhouses to make themselves lose, just to encourage them to chose others that aren't going to Atlanta. All I can say is read what I said and jude that alone, a lot of what others have said is not what I ment, if it sounds like it is to you then, well I don't mean it that way.

If people think that I'm a sophmore in high school, who think he knows it all, I'm not that way and I don't mean to sound that way. I just wanted to stir up some thoughts of the veteran teams, while they are making their alliance selection list. If the mentor comment makes you think that way, I have told you my resoning behind that many times, but some still comment like they haven't read what I have said.

Yes, I have only been here when my team has had the opertunity (I think that is how you spell it) to pick during alliance selection, but I wish that my team would put themselves in others shoes while picking. You are right this is by no means the majority view of my team and I'm suprised that no one on my team has asked me to remove these posts.

The top 8 not being able to pick amongst themselves, my reasoning is plain and simple, GLR this year. It was a lot more fun and interesting with all the upsets, and 3rd matches (sometimes 4), I believe due to the top (I think it was) 6 being unable to pick one another. i don't know what happened any where else in the country, but that had to be the most interesting and most fun regional we have attened, that is the majority of my team talking.

The reason for the 2/3 comment was because everything I say is what happens the majority of the time, not always. I know that there have been examples that don't follow what I have said, but I can only go on what I have seen and experianced.

Most of what I say, yeah could apply to my team, but that is not why I am posting it. I am the kind of person who doesn't think of just himself, our team in this case. If it sounds like I do I don't mean to.

Now you can start the "bash fuzzy1718fest" again, but how you can take offense to what I just said, I don't know.
"just to encourage them to chose others that aren't going to Atlanta." I understand your opinion. I just graduated from a team that was only a part of eliminations once in the four competitions we were in. We have been lucky enough to make Championships both years we competed, but because of the Rookie All-Star Award, and winning the single regional we were in the eliminations for. I was estatic that team 20, the 4th alliance captain, picked us with their 2nd round pick.

That said, teams need to deserve to go to championships. I've been there. It is great, but teams shouldn't get picked in eliminations for any other reason than the attributes they bring to an alliance. Usually that is purely their robot and drivers, and sometimes it includes a proven track record of their repair teams. At times, it includes how well two teams have worked together. This competition gives a huge advantage to veteran teams. There is a reason that I've never seen a rookie on Einstein. It is hard as a rookie, but new knowledge, and experience can help a team improve over the years. There are teams that consistantly build amazing robots. 217, 1114, 103, to name a few, but that doesn't mean any team can't join the ranks of those teams. I hope that in 5 or 10 years, if someone lauds, or complains about powerhouse teams, they will be talking about 2053 in the same breath as 254 and others.

In our regional this year, we had numerous teams that had already punched their ticket to the Championships without winning a single match. Team 20 and 191 were original teams from 1992. Team 191 won the Championships Chairman's award ... twice. 365 and 67 were chairman's award winners. There were numerous teams at our regional that also went on to win additional regionals. We had a stacked regional. We had only 1 rookie team, and 2 second year teams including us. However, I wouldn't have wanted it any other way. We learned a ton from the powerhouses, and loved competing against them.
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