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Unread 25-07-2008, 11:46
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Re: pic: drive base idea

Thanks to everyone for their comments.
Somehow the description didn't get posted when i uploaded the picture. What you see weighs 19 lbs. I haven't decided what gearboxes to use, but i have AM toughboxes or DeWalts in mind. The frame is 1x1x3/16 square tube, and will be welded.

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Originally Posted by Kyle Love View Post
I am guessing by the looks this will be 2WD right?

Also, will your actual frame material be 80/20? This would definitely be a good base to use that with.

How thick plate do you plan to use for the bearing mounts for the front and rear wheels?
Yes, Only the 2 center wheels are powered.

I was not planning on using 80-20 because it would make it heavier than i want this design to be.

The angle aluminum that supports the axles is 3/16 inch thick.

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Originally posted bycooker52Dead Axles? Never heard of that before...
If it is going to be a two wheel drive, may I suggest you use omni wheels on the corner wheels. This will improve your maneuverability greatly and prevent that skip the robot has everytime you turn.
InfernoX14 explained dead axles.

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Originally posted by cooker52
It's looking pretty good. When do you think you will be having more of it done?
Do you mean done in CAD, or built?
I will probably continue CAD of this design and similar ones until 2009. I don't know when i'll be 'done'.


To answer the comments about 6wd vs 2wd:
This drive base design was meant to be simple and light. Part of meeting this goal meant not powering the corner wheels.
For 3 out of the past 4 years, 1519 has used a 2wd drive, powering the center wheels only.

We have had good success with this design. The only drawback of this drive system is, like IKE points out, it cant climb ramps.

I like 6wd, but this design is meant to be the simple, light, stick-with-what-we-know design.


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Originally posted by BrendanB
And what center wheels are those, they don't look like what we have?
They are custom 6 inch aluminum wheels with roughtop or similar tread material.

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Originally posted by Tapoore
I believe that they are actually "poor man's" omnis (regular KOP wheels covered with pool hose so they can slide sideways easily)... Although I was hoping to get away from using them
They are 'poor mans omnis'. I'd like to get away from using them too, as are heavy.

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Originally posted by BrendanB
But aren't they cheaper and don't they turn easier than omis??? But then again, we can always use something with more quality.
Poor mans omnis are a lot cheaper than regular omni wheels, and they slide laterally very well, but not better than omnis.

Ryan, thanks for your advice about torquing the frame. Where would you recommend putting the round tube?

Comments are welcome
DB
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