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am planning for training. I hear mid November release. I'm planning for December training. A whole month. If we're lucky it'll be early November release, or after Thanksgiving. Not so lucky if it's released when I'm eating my turkey.
What would you like? See it now with all it's mistakes? From
what I've seen (and
here too) it's being polished up and final corrections made. The Beta people have to wade thru all the text and make things work. Think MPLab or EasyC with instructions that has sections missing or -- worse -- sections that may or may not have errors in it.
There are places that are showing off the new system -- check the
2009 FRC Control System Beta Test Public Forum for locations. I did your work for you, none yet in the SF area. But I'm sure there will.
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Originally Posted by Elliot Swart
It is notable that many of the disenters are either from Beta Teams or in the beta testing groups. Your teams obviously feel themselves prepared to deal with the perils of beta code and information, why do you want to deprive that right from others.
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I'm not a beta tester, and though I was contemplating it, it turns out New England wasn't in the running as WPI was here.
Beta testing is tough work. You have to take time out from your regular work (or schoolwork) to figure stuff out, and that's only part of the whole testing. You have to make it presentable, then present it all to other teams -- and that's still only part of the job. After the release you have to explain details of everything, how you got that, and all your findings,
plus all your code you created with the beta testing. (You did see the agreement in the FIRST forum, didn't you?) Then, after Kickoff, you
still have to be available to other teams to explain things, which takes time out from your programming.
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Originally Posted by Elliot Swart
When a beta tester says that he doesn't think the other teams are ready to see what his team is allowed to, he either being condesending, or trying to retain his teams competative advantage.
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I don't think that was called for.
Yes, I'd like the info early, too. I'd like the 2009 Game early, for that matter. It'll get here soon enough.