[Gdeaver]

Our team has used the KOP frame and 1010 extrusions in the past. The Kop frame and a 1010 frame are heavier than needed when the bumpers are added in. The KOP frame is time consuming to assemble. Pop rivets help. The 1010 frame most likely will not be ridged. It will be much heavier than needed. Last year our team used the 8020 quick frame material with the press in connectors. We used the flanged stock were possible . the the flange recesses provide a mounting for clear poly panels. The way we attach the bumpers prevents the tube from separating from the connectors. I was worried about the plastic connectors but, they held up fine. To mount the axles we use 2 2.5" pieces of 8611 panel mount extrusion to make clamp on mounts for 3/8" grade 8 bolt dead axles. With the 1/16" tubing allot of weight was saved and it went together very fast. Our team intends to use quick frame again unless some thing better is in the kit. Nothing like whacking a frame together.