[EricH]

Originally Posted by Nuttyman54

The pre-2004 black joysticks you refer too are these Flightsticks we speak of. I don't actually know the name of the tan ones we've been getting recently, but very few people that have used the old standbys like them better.

I believe those were also known as Flightsticks. The older ones had the designation "CH" in front. And the teams that had the newer ones--well, some teams didn't like them much--too loose, or not ambidextrous, or too many buttons, or something like that, so they modified them appropriately or went to something else entirely. The older black sticks (some were black and tan/white/gray) have been used by those who don't like the most recent ones.