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Originally Posted by vamfun
Hmm I had a Lunacy nightmare regarding possible conflict between G32 c and e?
<G32,C> If a portion of the BUMPER PERIMETER polygon is unprotected by BUMPERS, any contact by another ROBOT within the unprotected region (including the vertical projection of the unprotected region) will be considered incidental contact and will not be penalized.
<G32,E> .Contact outside of the BUMPER ZONE is not acceptable, and will result in a PENALTY. The offending ROBOT may be disqualified from the MATCH if the offense is particularly egregious or if it results in substantial damage to another ROBOT.
Let me pose the following question:
If contact outside the bumper zone occurs inside the unprotected region of a robot is rule G32, E in force or does this constitute incidental contact per rule G32 C?
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No conflict here. <G32C> is talking about the BUMPER PERIMETER; <G32E> about the BUMPER ZONE. These have two different definitions. Your BUMPER PERIMETER is within your BUMPER ZONE, but the ZONE extends infinitely in each direction outwards (and even inwards through your robot). Imagine a fog machine puts out a layer of "smoke" that lays between 1 and 7 inches from the floor, extending across the entire arena. That is the BUMPER ZONE. The BUMPER PERIMETER is defined by the outermost corners of your robot within the BUMPER ZONE. It may be as much as 1 to 7 inches from the floor, but only if you've got robot pieces from 1 to 7 inches. Most likely the BUMPER PERIMETER is defined by the frame pieces of your robot. The ZONE and PERIMETER exist all the way around your robot, whether or not portions of them are unprotected by BUMPERS.
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Originally Posted by vamfun
Eric, we have always assumed G32 C was in force, too. But I am concerned that the contact can be anything but incidental. We have a large opening and with a support bar (say 10 in about ground). An opponent robot can be struck hard and probably damaged by a high speed contact.
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Your support bar 10 inches above the ground is not inside your BUMPER ZONE. If it contacts another robot outside that robot's BUMPER ZONE, you could be penalized under <G32E>, and even DQ'd. But <G32C> gives an exemption to this - if the only contact is in the vertical plane directly above the BUMPER PERIMETER, you are OK. If your opening is so large that a significant corner of the other robot could be enveloped by it and now your 10" bar contacts an interior portion of that robot, you are not OK. Design accordingly.
In my opinion <G32E> is a hold over from previous game rules, when robots could have arms extending outward. You would be penalized if your arm went into the other robot's guts, because that could cause extensive damage to vital components. I don't expect to see many <G32E> calls this year.