The GDC's has responded to a followup question regarding the IFI chassis provided in previous KOP. They have also responded to a question about 56mm Banebots Gearboxes using similar reasoning.
http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread.php?t=11564
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The 2008 kit-bot chassis was custom-made for the 2008 FRC competition by Innovation First, Inc. That IFI now sells the chassis as a COTS item does not change the status of the 2008 chassis elements provided as part of the 2008 Kit Of Parts. COTS items recovered from a previous ROBOT can only be used if all three conditions listed in Rule <R32> are satisfied. A 2008 kit-bot chassis does not satisfy item <R32-B>, and would therefore be a prohibited item. Note however, that a current chassis element similar in form/function, obtained as a purely COTS purchase (i.e. not re-used from a previous ROBOT) would be permitted under Rule <R31>.
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http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread.php?t=11555
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The Banebots P56 gearboxes were custom-made products supplied for the 2007 Kit Of Parts. As such, they are prohibited from use in the 2009 competition by Rule <R32-B>. However, Banebots P56-HC gearboxes, which are improved versions of the model supplied in the 2007 Kit, are available COTS items and may be used.
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These responses disturb me quite a bit. The only possible consequences of these rulings is to hurt teams with low budgets that want to play by the rules. I cannot understand why it is legal to use a purchased IFI Kitbot chassis endcap when we have an identical, completely unmodified one sitting on the shelf in our shop.
The other bizarre part of these rulings is the complete about-face from a 2008 ruling regarding the same gearboxes. Rule <R32> from the 2009 Manual is word-for-word equivalent with <R36> from the 2008 Manual.
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Posted by FRC2185 at 01/09/2008 05:48:07 pm
Are the 2007 banebots transmission considered "custom made parts" are per rule <R36>?
The manual specifically mentions 2006 transmissions but nothing is said about the 2007 ones.
thanks for the help
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Posted by GDC at 01/10/2008 08:17:46 pm
The BaneBots planetary transmissions (like those provided in the 2007 KoP) are commercially available and any revision may be used. The 2006 transmissions are not commercially available and therefore may not be used.
Posted by FRC174 at 01/19/2008 09:27:57 am
Is our team able to use last year's transmission with the banebot?
Posted by GDC at 01/20/2008 10:08:10 am
The previous answer is still true.
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