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Re: 2009 Greater Toronto Regional

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Originally Posted by 1075guy View Post
I can't help but wonder... *puts on flame shield* if there wasnt at least a LITTLE bit of bias in the decision. 1114/2056/2185 were down a match, and at least 1, and i think more than 1 of the referees have ties to 1114. I'm sure people will accuse me of being un-GP for this comment, but its an issue I've thought of before with having refs who have ties to teams. I don't know what the answer is... it's difficult to be completely unbiased, but it would also be hard for FIRST to find qualified enough referees willing to do the job, who don't have ties to any team. I know this sounds like I'm harping on 1114 and their volunteers, and I'm really not trying to do that, they're great people and I'm happy to compete with them.
I'm almost speechless right now. You're seriously accusing a WFFA winner, former head referee at many regionals and one of the people with the most integrity I have ever met of being biased? He was not even supposed to volunteer this weekend, and graciously stepped in, leaving his team shorthanded, when one of the referees fell ill. This is the person you're accusing of being biased?

Three of the referees on the field has ties to 188. Including the one who also had ties to 1114. The head referee was on 188 in high school.

The decision was NOT made or influenced in any way by the referee with ties to 1114. The decision was made by the head referee (who had ties to 188) and the field supervisor, who had ties to NO team.

It's incredible to me that you are okay with just accusing a volunteer of being biased and influencing a match to that extent in a public forum without knowing any of the facts.

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This really upset me. I'm fairly certain I've never seen a timeout enforced with such ludicrous definity. Many regionals have been known to have mascots etc dancing on the playing field and run as much as 2 minutes OVER the timeout just to finish dancing before the teams got back on the field. 188 was at the field so soon before that I didnt even notice until Karthik announced they wouldn't be on the field. It was quite evident that the entirety of the stadium DIDNT want to see 188 sit the match out.
This exact situation happened at GTR in the semifinals last year. 188 was on the alliance that benefited from a 3 on 1 situation. They should know better. The rules are the rules, and this was a 100% correct interpretation.

I was also completely appalled at the boos that went up when the decision was announced. I thought I was at a FIRST event, where values of gracious professionalism were espoused. I thought there was no place for booing at a FIRST event. I guess I was wrong.

To clarify: This was not a smattering of boos. This was at least half of the stadium, booing the head referee. It was incredibly disconcerting and dismaying.
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