[Joe_Widen]

Generally, use fp's and banebots in low friction applications. As soon as you build up a bit of friction and try to run it at a high rpm, your going to smoke the motor. FP/banebots's are good for intake systems if everything is very rigid and built with high precision. I can't tell you how many fp's we've smokes because of improper use. The motor specs are misleading on the fp and banebot. They can do what they say, but not for very long under a big load. I've seen several teams use the fp/banebots's very effectively (1625, 254/968, 71, 111) for intake systems. Gearing on these is of utmost importance. You want to have the least load on the motors as you can. So if you know you can only move your ball conveyer at say 60 rmps, then gear the fp for 60 rpms, not a little more and hope that it goes faster. Its better to start slow and gradually increase instead of pick a relatively high number and hope it works, thats when you smoke em.

My rule of thumb is use a cim if you can help it. Cim
s are great because they can take on big loads and are pretty hard to smoke. I miss the minibike cims =[