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Re: Lessons Learned - The Negative

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Originally Posted by BurtGummer View Post
To be quite honest I did not have the time. If I could make a 36 hour day, then maybe. The student assigned for rules did not complete the task, and after talking with him, he did not seem to understand why it was a problem at all. There are other issues at work here but I would rather not discuss them on these boards. For a quick background, we didn't have a kickoff day.....we didn't even know about the competition until after kickoff day. We started on February 4th, and until ship date I was building, coding, debugging, wiring, fixing, more debugging, more building......you get the picture. I am not saying it's an excuse at all, and if it does, I apologize. When your working the whole day Thursday swiss cheesing the robot to make weight, and you find out the robot doesn't fit size, then wiring colors are incorrect, and that the bumpers were less than adequate, you get, well, really annoyed. I'm still cooling down from the stress of this weekend.....and I'm sure it's obvious in my posts.

If I end up mentoring next year, it will start on kickoff day, a student will read the rulebook, another student will learn programming, and another student will work on scouting systems, etc. With 6 students on the team this year, and none having experience in FIRST, it made it REALLY difficult. We did great! But we have so many things we could have improved upon if we had the time and larger workforce.

Unfortunately, the other students have never had the experience with tools, power tools, or coding programs, or just working on something mechanical. The feeder schools that feed our high school don't have any 'woodshop' type classes, and neither does our high school. I was the only person who had this experience, because to be honest, I'm a freak, haha. I've worked on pinsetting machines at bowling alleys, which gave me most of the mechanical experience. I feel bad because I couldn't teach the other team members how to use certain tools, but the time just wasn't there But already I'm thinking of doing a whole after school type of class in the fall on what tools are and how to use them, along with coding and wiring, so we don't build our next robot in the dark.

All in all, we learned it is almost completely about planning and good organization. It wasn't possible this year, but next year it will be a priority.

Oh, and about Championships. How is judging really done? I only saw 2 judges the entire time at our pit. Is that normal? If it is, I think a large judging force should be used, just like the regionals.
I'm going to post again, since this popped up in the 45+ minutes I spent writing my other post (and convincing a 2 year old it was bedtime).

It sounds like you pretty much had the normal rookie experience, just compressed into about half the time. I do not envy you that, and it truly does make your getting to Atlanta all that more impressive.

I cringe every time I hear "the studentassigned to read the robot rules". I have posted my thoughts on this subject before, and they can be read here. Make one the expert, but everyone that is going to walk within 10 feet of the robot should at least read thru them.

Other than that, it sounds to me like you have a great plan for next year! Good Luck! If you need any help or advice, hop in here and ask! Feel free to send me a PM any time, I've been thru the "Rookie Experience" more than once. I don't claim to know the answers, but I have learned a few things I don't recommend...

Judging at the Championship is done by a very large team, just like at the regionals. You just did not happen to see the rest of them.
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