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Unread 20-04-2009, 22:07
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Re: Lessons Learned - The Negative

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Originally Posted by Andrew Y. View Post
so the way your saying it, a team should not and can not do anything during the off season? shoot....then almost all the chairmans teams and all the teams who go do outreach and put it in their presentations are "cheaters" aka" rule breakers"

Wow you certainly have a chip on your shoulder! What I am saying is that the judges used improper criteria FOR THE ROOKIE AWARD... I never said anything about veteran teams and chairman's awards, but you seem determined to make me an evil person by trying to twist my meaning.
The discussion has centered around WHEN are you considered a rookie team. FIRST seems to define that as the start of the season and that was Jan 3rd, of this year. SO that would imply that they should consider the rookie season activities starting on Jan 3rd in determining this award. And may I point out... 3091 WAS helping FLL/FTC during that time so little has changed as far as that goes.
I never said anything about cheating OR that team 3091 did not deserve the award.. but that the reasons cited by Woodie, activities over the summer, were inappropriate for a rookie award. If anything, this was a disservice by whoever wrote the speech, to team 3091.
I think you need to read carefully before you comment. I recognize that this is a touchy subject but I believe FIRST needs to clarify all this rookie stuff.... there were 30+ other rookie teams at Atlanta, some of whom had just managed to convince their schools to back them and did a fantastic job of promoting FIRST in other ways. I don't believe it was fair to them to have an unknown bar set that forced them to be retroactive to include their previous year's activities to a time they may not have even known they would field a team.
But hey this is just my opinion. I can't change the ruling nor would I want to. I DO believe I have a valid point that should be addressed for future consideration. ( I personally wanted to see team 3020 win it... that gyro was awesome!)

Last edited by Steve_Alaniz : 20-04-2009 at 22:11. Reason: after thought
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