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Talking Re: 2009 Israel Regional

Personally, as a rookie, FRC2009, and FIRST in general, was an amazing experience from day 1. I experienced so many things connected to building a robot. It wasn't easy also cause we needed to overcome our lack of mentors & sponsors, but we made it somehow in the end, including staying almost 72 hours straight in school. We knew that our bot won't be the best and we didn't expect much so we had a lot of laughs during the competition (but we were concerned about our bot and treated it like family, don't you think we disrespected FIRST for a second even!) and didn't take our loses too badly (most of times it happened cause of mysterious connectivity problems with the field or event management or just problems that no one, and i mean NO ONE, understood why they are happening). (3-7-0) in the end.
I especially remember the moment when all the crowd & teams on field realized that Miscar is not going to be in finals. Everybody screamed like crazy, it was insane, I've never felt a more thundering feeling in my body, it was sensational.
In the end we even won the Rookie Inspiration Award and we were happy like we won the Chairman's or something XD.
We got so inspired from this event and it really pumped our FIRST spirit for the next season. We are learning from our mistakes and hope to be a real challenge to others next year
We would like to thank all the people who organized the event, Alisha, volunteers and everybody in FIRST Israel and others (Jon, Chris...).
Also, why did nobody mention team presenter Michell from NASA?! She was amazing, and too pretty for humankind! One of my high-lights in the competition was shking hands with her! I even blushed! Our team is totally in love with her! Inbar from our team even made a clip about her, you can find in YouTube.
We would also like to thank all the teams that helped us, mentors and sub mentors, people from our school, etc. The complete list is in our site: www.KOB.ort.org.il

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Originally Posted by yaron View Post
I am happy that you think that MisCar was and still is the best team in Israel. Saddly, it is unbeliveble that your dream is to beat MisCar, who since the 2005 assisted more than 50% of the teams in Israel through many stages of their development. Many still seek our advice even when they are not Rookies anymore.
Inspite of your sad remark we will continue to play a fair game and assist as many teams we can as we did this year assisting 6 rookie teams and assist enourmous amount of others.
Good luck at the competition, you will need it, if you want to beat MisCar you will need to get the Newton Finalist Award - this is the current title MisCar holds!!!
Yaron
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Originally Posted by yaron View Post
First, good luck at Atlanta, enjoy, learn a lot, and represent Israel as we did for 4 years with great gracious professionalism- meaning playing fair game.
What I meant that what differ FIRST then other competitive sports is the friendship, and assistance teams might have one towards the others. Certainly, unlike other sports, you play with a different team each match and play against different teams the following match. For MisCar, the goal was always to achieve FIRST's higher standards and fulfill all the sub-tasks of the game, or of the competition. We design our robot to accomplish the game goals and not accomplishment of defeating others.
For us, playing smartly is not driving a bot with rover wheels which lost their original shape and characters because someone in Israel recommended to use floor material that we knew will destroy the nature of the game.
Each year we rebuild our team on hard work, longer design then any other team, because of that particular reason. Instead of beating others we want to solve the problem of the game sophistically, to achieve the mission, and play it exactly as we think Dean's team thought.
Some think that we do that by having engineers do the work for us. Those who really know us, and there are over 25 teams in Israel this year that visited our workshop, saw some of our internal thinking processes and surely know that our students design everything in our robot, of course with the guidance of two teachers and two - four parent mentors. Our students, build almost every solution they think of during the first four weeks as prototypes from LEGO, cart board, wood, junk and just raw metal, parallel to design via th AutoDesk Inventor the solutions we eventually elect for each sub-system.
I truely believe that I personally explained this strategy to at least 10 rookies teams during the last five years. I did it not to defeat them but to build more teams who play a fair game, a reasonable game, to fulfill a dream is to solve the game sub missions = gracious professionalism.
And if you are from Tichon Handasaim Herzelia you should know this because in 99% of the matches I have watched you during the last 2 years your team played a fair game!!!
Again, good luck,
Yaron,
FRC Senior Mentor since 2008.
Senior mentor at 1574 since 2006,
Head Mentor of 2630 during 2009 season,
The founder and Head mentor of 2214 for the 2007-8 seasons
Dear Yaron,
I think you are taking this too personally. Nobody hates Miscar, nobody wants your bad, nobody cheats just to win or something. You may be the best team in Israel but you are not the only team here. We can't thank you enough for your help this season. You are the role model for every team in Israel and considered the perfect one. You are so awesome that our team talks about you like GODS ("oh no, coffee spilled... this would have never happened in Misgav! XD). I personally think you are just disappointed from your not-going-to-Atlanta for the first time. There is no question that your team works the hardest, and makes the best robots there are. BUT as you saw this year - it's not enough to build a good robot. You can't win without co-operation with your alliance members, strategy and even luck. You definitely had the best bot but you lost because of your arrogance, lack of team spirit (your crowd cheered only when you were on the field or winning ) and lack of counter-tactic in case SOMEBODY understands your bot is useless when pinned to a corner (like we did but couldn't do nothing cause of our endless technical problems). Efficiency is not all, you know.
Every alliance wants to beat the other one, no matter who is on it. An alliance with 1574 in it is a huge challenge to overcome and winning a match against you guys is an achievement by itself. We can say that about other teams also, but you are the main "threat" if you are in a game.
It's in everybody's interest to keep the competition fair to all, we are all friends here and there are no enemies.
I hope you'll keep up the good work and keep helping other teams as you did so far. I wish you better luck next season and hope that you'll even take first place in Atlanta someday - you are on the right track!

See you all in the off-season matches! if there are any XD.
PS: sorry for the length of this post
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