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Re: All the FRC Teams That Ever Were

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Originally Posted by Nica F. View Post
Oh, I was actually wondering about cases in which newer teams were assigned low numbers. Like my example from my previous post: HTHLA got the team number 4 in 2006, was there another team with that number before that just retired or was it just a dead number? (I hope I'm making sense?)

I know that I've read of a few more of these cases of teams splitting and "child" teams getting lownumber yyy in opposed to getting rookie number xxxx. I can't really name any at the top of my head at the current moment though.
These teams have all received earlier numbers than their starting year would warrant. None of these numbers had an earlier team associated with them. They are all "holes" in the team number assignments, or "dead numbers" as you call them. Back in 1997 it looks like FIRST allocated the numbers based on who they expected would play that year, but for whatever reason those teams never showed up. Since 1998 when the age of permanent team numbers began, no one else has ever competed as team number 4.
Now in 1997 permanent team #6 (Washburn High School, Hopkins, MN) used the temporary number 4, but I wasn't counting that. That only confuses things.

2006: 4,39,423,744,1013
2007: 424,425,1535,1711,1728
2008: 509,1025,1988
2009: 216,1729



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Originally Posted by EricH View Post
You sure about that, Mark? I seem to remember a member of one team saying on CD that they'd gotten the number of another team (reassigned) after that team folded. I don't think they shared the same school or the same sponsor.
As far as I can tell from database searches and perusing old competition lists. I started checking for that in 2005, because one of my students was first developing our database on all the teams back then. He was concerned about how to handle duplicate team numbers, but that problem has never actually materialized.

P.S. That could have been a post talking about old temporary team numbers, so the folks from 1996 and 1997 may be saying they used to have such-and-such a number. I treat those like the temporary number you hang on your chest for running the marathon.
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