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Re: pic: Team 221 LLC. - Wild Swerve Module

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Originally Posted by fuzzy1718 View Post
Too all of you wo keep saying "mine your own metal, make this from scratch yada yada yada" everyone is just trying to say where do we draw the line. If you use the that arguement all you are seeing is black and white, not the gray area in between.
Yes, the GDC prevents robot in a box, but the problem is where do we draw the line on the words "complete mechanism?" You could turn this into a shooter rather easy, but how much of that shooter is already there for you? 1/2... 2/3?

Team 221 this is in no way ment to sound ofensive to you, but when you guys offer a product, simply offer parts not a complete anything. For instance with your guy's chassis why sell the whole rail, just sell the parts seperatly and let teams figure it out. Not only could you guys profit more but it would appease both sides of the arguement. You would be selling the whole thing, but teams could still build it mixing your stuff with others.

Just a thought, hope fully I don't get tared and feathered for it.

First of all, Team 221 LLC, AndyMark, or any other manufacturer of such products, do not only appeal to the FRC audience. They are robotics technology manufacturers and should always be remembered as a BUSINESS first.

I don't know how you draw the argument that they can make more money by selling parts, I'd rather pay a little(or a lot) extra if I'm in a time crunch (6 weeks anyone?) and need a swerve module at my door at 3am on a Tuesday (happens to all of us).

I wouldn't tar and feather you Josh, as you've been flamed before on here, but definitely look at things from multiple perspectives. If I were the companies in question, this is the exact direction I would move in; selling full modules. Team 221 and AndyMark are two companies RC and I look up to because, for AndyMark at least since 221 is new, they have a great established business model for the robotics technology world. Even look at VEX, they sell full arms now because that's how you run a business. Just look at all the angles of the situation. Also, if I were them I really wouldn't bother trying to appease both parties of the argument, the one that likes what the company is selling would be my target audience at hand (consumers) and the others would later on potentially see what they've failed to benefit from.

+0.02

I love what's going on with VEX, Team 221, and AndyMark. Keep it up guys. You may not know it, but you really do inspire those of us who may be a little more business minded than mechanical or have the ability to combine both skills, kids like me.
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