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Re: FRC Java 2010 Documentation

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Originally Posted by Don Rotolo View Post
Before anyone decides to roast this contributor alive - for posting public documents ! - please look at the links provided.
Don,

It was not my intent to "roast this contributor alive", nor do I believe that my prior post conveyed that message at all (evidently the original poster agreed, as he responded to my challenge in a professional manner).

I did look at the links before posting. Although Squawk's documentation is indeed available now, this is the first of WPIlibJ that I have seen. My comments were exclusively directed at WPIlibJ; I apologize for any confusion in this regard. Likewise, I apologize if WPIlibJ was publicly available right now and I had just missed its release.

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Originally Posted by Don Rotolo View Post
The caveat is that it's not final. So, treat it as a useful resource to get started on understanding. Why didn't FIRST post this instead? Hello, it's not final...
FIRST's NDA with beta test teams explicitly instructs us NOT to post documentation or code of development versions of the libraries, for various reasons (eg. they are moving targets, so we don't want to give out bad info). I am sure that FIRST's development partners are under a similar agreement. The utility of the information posted is irrelevant for the purposes of an NDA. I am neither agreeing with or disagreeing with this policy; I am merely stating it.

Of course, this is all moot because we now know that the OP has no NDA. He is therefore legally free to post what he did.

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Please, no ranting or raving on whether this is legal/GP/etc
I never said anything about this being illegal or un-GP. I merely said that I was not sure that it was FIRST's intent to post this (WPIlibJ) information at this time. Considering that FIRST and WPI have not said anything on the topic, I stand by that conviction.

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Thank you for thinking before posting


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I come from a field where things like NDAs, proprietary/classified information, etc., are taken VERY seriously. I understand that posting Javadocs for a robotics competition is not even close to the same thing as leaking government secrets, but I have been conditioned to treat these sorts of things EXTREMELY cautiously. At times overly so.

I really didn't mean to de-rail this thread, I just felt obligated to make sure that the OP had fulfilled any obligations to FIRST before posting. He believes that he has, so let's move on.
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