Thanx, I understand the idea that I can only use legal programs and not *cough*mhm
warez mh*cough* and I will be intrested to see if I even need to use these programs when max 5 comes out, because personally I don't think the scanline render in 3ds 4.2 is that good. That and my school won't pay for entropy or mental ray (haha renderman is out of the question then I guess
) well anyway thanx for the help