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Originally Posted by Don Rotolo
I don't entirely disagree with Dan, but I'm not sure he got my point, which is (paraphrased) Yes, the climate is changing, but is it caused by Mankind's activity or not? I think "the climate is changing" has been well-established in science.
While his response is passionate - and I respect his views - in many people's minds any obvious misstatement of fact tends to nullify the entire argument by degrading the perceived validity of the other arguments. (Read that carefully) This is not to attack his views, but his methodology of expressing them.
I do appreciate everyone's restraint on this hot-button topic, and I am sincerely fascinated by these opinions. Keep 'em coming!
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I am suprised that nobody yet has brought up "Climategate", an established fact that has been spreading on the Web since last week. Basically somebody "hacked" the e-mail of a prominent Climatology lab in England. The e-mails the hacker released show quite plainly that these vaunted researchers were "cooking the books" when the numbers "did not come out right".
These were not isolated incidents of some lowly grad student either. Thousands of pages of dicussion on how to deal with "problems in the data" between department heads and full professors. The Insitute involved has acknowledged the e-mails as being apparently genuine. They are looking to prosecute the hacker/leaker/informant, but they have not denied the e-mails say what they say.
Oh, and these were also the guys doing the "peer reviews" for all that peer reviewed literature out there. So easy to give a bad review (and inhibit publication) of any paper that disagrees with your findings. Convienient no?
More is coming out all the time as people sift through the documents that have been made available. But it looks as if the basic statistical data used to "confirm" Anthropogenic Global Warming has been cherry picked and in some cases altered.
Normally I wouldn't link to one of the admitedly right leaning websites I visit, but the whole thing is too big to quote here and it is pertinent to the discussion.
This is a good place to start. I am sure you can find other links if you look.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art..._in_99280.html
One more thing to remember, just because it is not on your evening news, does not mean it did not happen.
ChrisH