[EricH]

I don't disagree with clean energy, especially if it's cheap. As a matter of fact, my school just installed a wind/solar research station on a nearby hill, with plans to eventually make the data collected on power production available online, realtime. I'm actually doing a group report right now on clean energy options. (And I did a group persuasive speech AND a group ethics presentation on the alternative-energy topic last semester...)

I also happen to disagree with human-caused global warming. Climate change, sure, I'll buy it, whether it's going up or down. It's been doing that for quite some time now (exactly how long is another debate). But that humans cause it? What exactly brought the earth out of the last ice age? That part is kind of debatable, depending on which evidence you choose to believe/ignore.

It's quite possible to see eye-to-eye on one facet of a problem, yet disagree on another facet. This is why sometimes you have to say, "let's agree to disagree", and move on.


Dan, I don't know of anyone that doesn't have the guts to admit what his job is. What that person's bias is, especially in the media, which is actively involved in spreading the global whatever-they're-calling-it-these-days message, is quite something else from his job. And, to some extent, I'm in your bias. I just happen to think that a different group of people is in each general category.

Oh, and I was wanting to use this quote from Mark Twain a day or two ago, so I'll use it here: "There are lies, d---d lies, and statistics." Cut out (or add, your choice) X amount of data, and you'll be able to prove just about anything statistically. Doesn't necessarily mean that it's true, though.

And to second the note about "tone": You choose words that are easily perceived as inflammatory/attacking, you get the reaction generally associated with that perception. Let's try to avoid that to keep this discussion open, as it is a worthwhile one.