[Phoenix Spud]

I think that there are two main types of pride. The (bad) pride that comes before a fall, and the (good) pride a mother feels when her child takes his first steps. The "good" type of pride is just that-good. It will always be good. While the bad type can never be good and leads to local and global disasters. Bad Pride for one's nation causes war, while the good type causes its' citizens to represent their nation every day in thought, word, and deed.

PS thanks for starting this thread, I think that it is a good conversation to have on CD.