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Originally Posted by Jones571

And R87 2008 is were I took my statement of solenoids are allowed from 08 kop and older so how are my facts not checked? I read the entire pneumatics section not just the rule that if taken out of context helps me.

R87 IMHO says all solenoids needed to currently or previously offered in a KOP. R88 would clarify this even further that it must be COTS so you can't use something that would be discountinued and you can have as many as you would like on your robot.

So if the SMC you used was never in a KOP it should of never been a ROBOT PART to begin with.

Again, opinions are just that. We had the same concern in 2008, and asked and received the following on Q&A:

Pneumatic System
Pneumatic valves
Pneumatic valves
Posted by FRC1771 at 01/18/2008 09:18:14 am
Rules <R86> and <R87> seem to limit the pneumatic valves to the ones in the KOP (from this
or previous years). However, rule <R88> appears to allow any solenoid valve, regulator,
gauge, or fitting, as long as they are off the shelf, and and rated for at least 125 PSI.
My question is: can we use other valves and fittings than those supplied in the kit. Specifically,
Valves with larger Cv than the ones in the kit, and other one touch fittings such as muliti-T's
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Re: Pneumatic valves
Posted by GDC at 01/21/2008 12:32:44 pm
Rule <R88> specifically permits the use of additional (not-Kit Of Parts) solenoid valves and
fittings. Valves with a larger internal Cv than the KOP valves are permitted by this rule. Note,
however, that all valves and fittings must connect to, and use, 0.160" ID pneumatic tubing.
This is a safety constraint (as the Cv for the entire pneumatic system is dominated by the
tubing flow rate) and must not be violated.