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* One other thing to remember in the 360 vs Logitech controller debate is that the Logitech controller has symetrical joysticks, which are important for a skid steer, while the 360 does not, which makes it harder to do skid-steer with.
* If it really bugs you that the 360 joysticks aren't straight, you can always correct it in software.
* If you were doing something like crab-drive that required a translational angle stick and a rotational distance/speed stick, then the 360 controller would work well (except the centering issues, of course).
* We are using a Logitech controller because we have a skid-steer, but I have personally used an Xbox (original) controller with many of my demos because they require two distinct sticks, angle and speed. Everyone always says that we are using a PS2 controller and most still don't know its actually a Logitech one. It works well. It's actually the same one we used in Overdrive.
* We used the Kit joysticks in 2009 and they worked well. We never used the 08 and previous kit joysticks, except the older CH Flightsticks which we used in every robot until Overdrive.
* the Logitech gamepad dosen't need drivers, I don't know about the 360 one.