gvarndell,
Thank you so much. I havn't done it like that yet, I'll try it at tonights meeting, and get back on if it works. I think it will, because everything that you have happening happens, its just that we get stuck ( hate to admit it, but i'll come out and say that after seeing your guide its definately user error

Who wouldda' thunk?

)
Thanks again to all the people who have helped us out!
WE GOT IT WORKING!!! Finally, now hopefully we can debug before the news comes tomorrow
Once again, i want to say thanks to everyone, you guys ( girls? ) are lifesavers