[waialua359]

Originally Posted by Nickel5

Once a ball is up against the alliance station walls, it's dead. If it's against the side walls in the middle section, it's also dead.
Autonomous is very important because it's a unimpeded chance to score
Hard to manipulate ball, even with ball control

thanks for confirming what we were afraid of.
With bumpers on and being high off the ground, how the heck do you get it from the wall, without a manipulator that wacks it back into play?

I've seen videos of vacuum suction cups that work well, once it grabs the ball. But without rollers, it would make it almost impossible. Those videos showed it with their bumper off.

Kind of reminds me of 2008, comparing teams that had the top rollers vs. those that did not. We didnt unfortunately.