Some of those ham radios are complicated to program! I remember looking at one a few years ago and it makes programming other radios feel so easy, with the scanners I use software from Butlel.nl and once you know the systems it's not hard at all.

Back when I worked one summer as a summer student at a Motorola dealer even that stuff wasn't as involved as the ham radio.

The trick there was programming everything so it would be as simple and direct as possible for the end user, whereas the little ham radio I looked at seemed to require a degree in rocket science to program, then again that's part of the hobby, makes it all interesting.

Now if they only made a radio that read MotoTRBO....I'd be a very happy camper right now.

I guess D-star is becoming popular with Ham radio now as well.