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Originally Posted by nrhinkle
Today and yesterday at the Oregon Regional we were also pondering this year's bizarre seeding system. We noticed at least one match in which an entire alliance appeared to have coordinated to shoot into only the opposing alliance's goals. Initially we were baffled, until we looked more closely at the rules. Then we saw the brilliance and counterintuitiveness of this system.
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This was our alliance team 1515 in our last Qualifying round. Is took quite a bit of convincing to get the other teams to play along because as you said and a few people on this thread have said.....alot of team don't understand the seeding rules.
There is an inherit issue here though at a large regional with 60 or so teams not only are you boosting your seeding score it is also boosting everyone elses on the field or about 10% of the teams at the regional.
Because of this it is really only an effective tacktick for your last match because if this was done the entire time the efectivness of it would diminish.
In a sense it almost turns the game into a 6 on 0 and sees who has the best set of 6 bots on the field instead of 3.
Although the match didn't turn out as well as we expected (the other alliace couldn't really score and were having some control issues) the best part was listening to the announcer (who was a great guy) but had no clue how the seeding worked and could not figure out what we were doing.
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This raises another important issue of the scoring. I am not going to get into it (as there are already many other threads) but it is very complicated and can be taken advantage of. I look at it both in a positive and negative way however. I consider it part of the game just like a "field element" and strategy has to be developed to deal with it. In the same light though because the "match score" and not the "seeding score" is showen on the score board there is alot of confusion and I think misleads people who do not know the rules as much as us rule worms that study them extensively. A great example of this was at the organ regional there were 2gopc reps walking around and they came to watch a match. I had spoken to them earlier so they aproched me and asked me who won. They were very surprised to find out that the team that got 0 won. If FIRST really wants the public to enjoy the game I think they need to have more strait forward scoring or at least more clearly display the seeding score which is really the only thing that matters durring the qualifiers.
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Sorry for the long post,
Matthew Forman
Team 1515