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Originally Posted by Swampdude
Travis, I take it you are against the collusion strategy. If the rule stands, where do you draw the line? As soon as a team begins to lose, i.e. teammate breaks, the other team has 3 balls in during autonomous and your team has 1 kicker etc. Are you asking those teams to believe in miracles and keep scoring hoping they will come out on top, but knowing all they're doing is multiplying the winning teams score? For the sake of honoring a win/loss gaming philosophy? I would feel silly telling my driver to keep on pumping up the other teams score for them and I won't, it's ridiculous!
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In such an outmanned situation, I'd feel sillier and believe I'd be harpooning the spirit of the term competition if I were to pump balls into the other team's goal.
If I were in an outgunned situation, I'd switch to defense. I agree - it's silly to elevate the other alliance's rank (as well as your alliance's seeding score with this year's loophole/oversight/intentional decision/whatever the heck it is) just for the sake of nothing better to do. Spectators/sponsors/etc. won't understand what they are seeing, and you aren't furthering any FIRST ideals by providing those "fake points". The opposition didn't earn those scores. You didn't earn those scores shooting into an undefended goal. At least if I played defense, I'd still know that any scores they managed to achieve were earned against LEGITIMATE OPPOSITION, not via some misguided vision of forced "cooperation".
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If you're going to get everyone riled up at the regional to take a stand against collusion, you really need to make it clear what are the "NEW" rules. I would rather leave that to FIRST.
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As would I. Absent any action from FIRST, however...teams may choose to employ other means of getting the message across....
By the way, did other regionals neglect to play the game animation? I don't recall seeing or hearing it. I missed DC regional Saturday ceremonies, and I don't believe it was played at Friday opening ceremonies at all. Maybe they showed it throughout the day - I was in the pits almost exclusively.
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However, I like your idea of no opponent scoring! But I think FIRST needs to act fast on this or at least make a public acknowledgment of this situation.
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Sure would be nice.