View Single Post
  #88   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 18-03-2010, 19:40
MikePres's Avatar
MikePres MikePres is offline
A Dreamer
AKA: Michael Presman
FRC #3088 (Kill-O-Bites)
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Rookie Year: 2009
Location: Kiryat Bialik, Israel
Posts: 73
MikePres has much to be proud ofMikePres has much to be proud ofMikePres has much to be proud ofMikePres has much to be proud ofMikePres has much to be proud ofMikePres has much to be proud ofMikePres has much to be proud ofMikePres has much to be proud ofMikePres has much to be proud of
Send a message via ICQ to MikePres Send a message via MSN to MikePres
Re: disaster in israel regional

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tottanka View Post
Michael,
FIRST cant take responsibility of every team's actions, and blaming FIRST isn't even logical in the case of the events you mentioned.
The system can't keep an eye on each and every psycho out there willing to bring in firecrackes, be logical. If you knoww hat team did it, go ahead and tell that to FIRST and i'm sure they will take care of it and that this team will not be back. If you don't know who did it, don't expect FIRST to know, it's no FBI.]

There is nothing unhonest about offering a team to join you, it is your full right as a top seeded team. I don't think you can judge those teams and go as far as saying that this is a stain on FIRST Israel. It is their team's desicion and it is just as clean and fair as any other decision out there.

About team 3076. Did you talk to them yourself about the stickers, and did they still do that? If yes, did you complain to FIRST?
I don't expect them to be FBI, just FIRST. with all respect, this issues shouldn't have happened and i hope it was the last time. I encourage the FIRST Israel staff to make all the right conclusions for next year so that we won't find ourselves in a similar thread next year.

I know, i didn't say it isn't legal or isn't fair, it's okay, but we prefer not to do stuff in that way. Maybe next year we'll understand that in the end it's just a game...

We asked them no to do it and they did. we didn't complain to FIRST but i did washed one of their representatives verbally (explaining why we won't take them to our alliance, not cursing or something). i know that not all 3076 teammates are like that and i hope that it was enough to change something there for the next season.

Quote:
Originally Posted by brianelite View Post
FIRST is hosting the event and is responsible for security. That is why robots are inspected for safety by FIRST.

These are incredibly serious issues. These issues would be an outrage at any public event - and FIRST has WAYYY higher standards then other public events.

-Explosive thrown in teams pit
-Brawl with security and teams
-Fight between teams
-Theft
-Vandalism
-Racial slurs
-Intentional Disruption of matches
-Coaches/Mentors encouraging some/all of these activities

If safety cannot be guaranteed there cannot be an event. FIRST will either have to cancel the event or employ security forces if the event will continue next year... Imagine that.. FIRST increasing security.
there is no doubt that we had a lot of problems this year but still this is a great regional to participate in. the majority of teams in israel are really good people with great mind and big hearts. a lot of teams help each other (we helped and were helped this year ) and there's no real reason to eliminate this Regional. yes, we had some problems, but all regionals have some. I'm sure FIRST Israel already started preparations for a better next season. don't forget about all the logistics involved here that complicate things... I hope all the problems are going to be discussed with US FIRST too and proper solutions will be picked.
I think that all teams should go through a united seminar to remind what is exactly GP and that Award are for achievements and not the opposite. every team should also make greater efforts to explain those to its community. I said my team in the beginning of this year: "We're not gonna do charity for Chairman's, we'll enter Chairman's only if we'll do charity and community work, and it depends on people" and that's why we didn't enter Chairman's this year. I wanted my team to be rewarded for something they do, not because they do it for the award. Maybe if our crowds understood better what is GP and FIRST all about - maybe all that happed will not happen again. It's a process, it's a birth, and we have our own growing pain.

i believe that if our community will work together, everything's gonna be all right in the end
__________________

2010 Captain of...
Kill-O-Bites (#3088) - Crazy Enough to Work!
2009 Israel Regional Rookie Inspiration Award! =D
2010 Israel Regional Semi-Finalists and Coopertition Award! ^^
the first team ever to lose due to a coin-toss in the semis ^^"
Visit us: | our site (explorer only) | Blogger | twitter | YouTube | Facebook| FIRSTwiki | kob3088@gmail.com |