[Sunshine]

Originally Posted by Enigma's puzzle

Shop Class is for machine operators, and CADing and sending it to a shop is for Engineers. I think they are actually learning more, including a more true version of the engineering process. No engineer is going to go into the workplace and tell a bunch of guys on the drill press how to make it, but instead the ThunderChickens are getting valuable hands on experience about designing, material strengths, tolerances, prototyping, etc. I can bet one of my students never learned a thing about tolerances by working our drill press.

And after they get their personally designed parts back, I'm sure they catch up pretty fast when making the slight modifications that most of our students make to make it better.

I have more concern about your comments than any other posted here. Shop class as you call it, is for engineers too. You can not design it if you do not know how it is built. You are missing one of the big reasons we are here.

You say: "No engineer is going to go into the workplace and tell a bunch of guys on the drill press how to make it". Again you are wrong, ever hear of time and motion or quallity control? That's engineers telling people on the drill press how to do their job better.

hmmm..... or robotics kids are learning about tolerancing while using the drill press. One of us is missing something.

Sorry for changing the subject, but I feel much better now.

Thunderchickens rock!