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Re: Tipping opponents robots

The robot might have been harassing the robot that tipped them,
and pushing a robot is fair game, but the tip in the end, if that
was the intent, is not fair game. If it were to happen twice
it would become clear to the refs that it was intentional and
would likely be penalized. No other scorer and no balls were
in play when it happened, but it does take at least two such
events to establish a pattern.

Pinning has its limits in the rules, but pushing a robot back and
forth to keep it out of play has no limit in the rules that I know
of. This keeps the robot out of play, but also ties up your robot
doing it. Purposely tipping to put a robot out of play is not fair game,
in my opinion.

There are many situations where a robot might end up tipped
that are not purposeful. As an example, using your robot to
run interference on the other side of a bump might end up
with a tipped robot if it keeps coming over the bump on top
of the robot running interference. This, in my opinion, is
fair game. The tip was the result of an action taken by
the robot that ended up tipped.

The bottom line is that the line between the results of aggressive
but reasonable play and an intentional tipping strategy is a fine one.
In the end it is up to the refs to decide. I would not come to
a match thinking that there is a free license to tip another robot
to put it out for the rest of the match.

Eugene


Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Johnson View Post
Eugene,
See now that doesn't sound so bad to me... ...well until the tipping it bit. But the first part.

Suppose there is a defender harassing your prize scoring robot in the near zone. It seems to me that it is a FAS to push them across the field and even a bit onto the bump, holding them for a bit (until the pinning rules kick in) if necessary to defend my partner.

But of course, if we intend to tip them in the end, I suppose we've crossed the line even if we don't actually manage to accomplish it.

Thoughts?
Joe J.